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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.vestaldesign.com/blog/2005/12/certified-wild-american-shrimp/comment-page-1/#comment-581</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike wrote the above stuff, not dave.  mike also smells</description>
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		<title>By: Dare Lin</title>
		<link>http://www.vestaldesign.com/blog/2005/12/certified-wild-american-shrimp/comment-page-1/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>Dare Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further reading if you&#039;re interested...

&lt;B&gt;Wild-caught shrimp:&lt;/B&gt; Wild-catch fisheries typically use &quot;trawl nets&quot; (Forrest Gump style). What isn&#039;t shown in the movie is the industry&#039;s ridiculous waste. University and gov&#039;t studies have estimated that for every pound of shrimp caught, 5 pounds of non-target species (fish, turtles, dolphins, etc.) are unintentionally caught and killed as a result of this fishing method.

Vestal, got any ideas for a solution to these &quot;bycatch&quot; problems? Ask Mike about &quot;SmartGear&quot; or watch for a blogpost about this.

It should be noted however that there have already been some interesting innovations called TED (Turtle Excluding Devices) that enable turtles to escape these nets. The American fleet boasts 99% compliance to use such devices, which is imaginably better than lesser regulated fleets.

&lt;B&gt;Farm-raised shrimp:&lt;/B&gt; Shrimp are often raised in inland ponds rather than caught in the ocean. This method is bycatch free. However, shrimp aquaculture carries with it a whole list of other environmental issues including water pollution (in the form of excess nutrients) from fecal waste, coastal development (clearing vital mangrove forests), escaped shrimp which may become invasive exotic species and animal disease outbreaks. If you&#039;re interested in the details, feel free to email me (this is what I do).

&lt;B&gt;Foreign vs. domestic fisheries:&lt;/B&gt; Ahh the issue of globalization... Could be good OR bad for the environment, people, world economy, etc. depending on the specifics. As I had mentioned before, American shrimp trawlers (wild-caught) are required to use bycatch-reduction devices on their nets such as Turtle Exclusion Devices. Such practice is rare in SE Asia and Central America. Also, American shrimp farms (there aren&#039;t many) are held to higher environmental regulations than foreign farms. And of course, there&#039;s the issue of transporting the shrimp long distances if it&#039;s caught far away.

All this being said, next time you&#039;re at the supermarket (or at your home freezer), check out the shrimp. I&#039;ll bet you a beer that the shrimp is farm-raised from either SE Asia (probably Vietnam  and Thailand) or Latin America. If you happen to find American shrimp, it&#039;s usually around $11 or $12/lb instead of the usual $8/lb.

&lt;B&gt;Certification&lt;/B&gt; What does it mean to have a &quot;certified&quot; product? Has this claim been overused and/or abused, so that its value is now diluted? My dad scoffs at &quot;certified&quot; anything, thinking it&#039;s just another baseless marketing ploy. Is it? This one looks like it&#039;s funded by the goverment via a NOAA grant, but takes on the feel of a lobby... Wild American Shrimp, Inc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further reading if you&#8217;re interested&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Wild-caught shrimp:</b> Wild-catch fisheries typically use &#8220;trawl nets&#8221; (Forrest Gump style). What isn&#8217;t shown in the movie is the industry&#8217;s ridiculous waste. University and gov&#8217;t studies have estimated that for every pound of shrimp caught, 5 pounds of non-target species (fish, turtles, dolphins, etc.) are unintentionally caught and killed as a result of this fishing method.</p>
<p>Vestal, got any ideas for a solution to these &#8220;bycatch&#8221; problems? Ask Mike about &#8220;SmartGear&#8221; or watch for a blogpost about this.</p>
<p>It should be noted however that there have already been some interesting innovations called TED (Turtle Excluding Devices) that enable turtles to escape these nets. The American fleet boasts 99% compliance to use such devices, which is imaginably better than lesser regulated fleets.</p>
<p><b>Farm-raised shrimp:</b> Shrimp are often raised in inland ponds rather than caught in the ocean. This method is bycatch free. However, shrimp aquaculture carries with it a whole list of other environmental issues including water pollution (in the form of excess nutrients) from fecal waste, coastal development (clearing vital mangrove forests), escaped shrimp which may become invasive exotic species and animal disease outbreaks. If you&#8217;re interested in the details, feel free to email me (this is what I do).</p>
<p><b>Foreign vs. domestic fisheries:</b> Ahh the issue of globalization&#8230; Could be good OR bad for the environment, people, world economy, etc. depending on the specifics. As I had mentioned before, American shrimp trawlers (wild-caught) are required to use bycatch-reduction devices on their nets such as Turtle Exclusion Devices. Such practice is rare in SE Asia and Central America. Also, American shrimp farms (there aren&#8217;t many) are held to higher environmental regulations than foreign farms. And of course, there&#8217;s the issue of transporting the shrimp long distances if it&#8217;s caught far away.</p>
<p>All this being said, next time you&#8217;re at the supermarket (or at your home freezer), check out the shrimp. I&#8217;ll bet you a beer that the shrimp is farm-raised from either SE Asia (probably Vietnam  and Thailand) or Latin America. If you happen to find American shrimp, it&#8217;s usually around $11 or $12/lb instead of the usual $8/lb.</p>
<p><b>Certification</b> What does it mean to have a &#8220;certified&#8221; product? Has this claim been overused and/or abused, so that its value is now diluted? My dad scoffs at &#8220;certified&#8221; anything, thinking it&#8217;s just another baseless marketing ploy. Is it? This one looks like it&#8217;s funded by the goverment via a NOAA grant, but takes on the feel of a lobby&#8230; Wild American Shrimp, Inc?</p>
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		<title>By: Dare Lin</title>
		<link>http://www.vestaldesign.com/blog/2005/12/certified-wild-american-shrimp/comment-page-1/#comment-579</link>
		<dc:creator>Dare Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a marine biologist, the commercial caught our eye for a number of reasons. My area of research is focused on studying and finding solutions to the ecological impacts of aquaculture and the sustainable management of fisheries. It&#039;s much more complicated than buy X, avoid Y.

There are a several seafood resources available including guides published by the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://eng.msc.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marine Stewardship Council&lt;/A&gt;,&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://seafood.audubon.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Audubon Society&lt;/A&gt;, the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Environmental Defense&lt;/A&gt; and the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/seafoodwatch.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Monterey Bay Aquarium&lt;/A&gt;.

It&#039;s a complicated issue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a marine biologist, the commercial caught our eye for a number of reasons. My area of research is focused on studying and finding solutions to the ecological impacts of aquaculture and the sustainable management of fisheries. It&#8217;s much more complicated than buy X, avoid Y.</p>
<p>There are a several seafood resources available including guides published by the <a HREF="http://eng.msc.org/" rel="nofollow">Marine Stewardship Council</a>,<a HREF="http://seafood.audubon.org/" rel="nofollow"> Audubon Society</a>, the <a HREF="http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm" rel="nofollow"> Environmental Defense</a> and the <a HREF="http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/seafoodwatch.asp" rel="nofollow"> Monterey Bay Aquarium</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a complicated issue&#8230;</p>
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